diff --git a/common/ruletypes.h b/common/ruletypes.h
index e1475fa79..c3a8fd5dc 100644
--- a/common/ruletypes.h
+++ b/common/ruletypes.h
@@ -66,6 +66,7 @@ RULE_INT(Character, AutosaveIntervalS, 300)	//0=disabled
 RULE_INT(Character, HPRegenMultiplier, 100)
 RULE_INT(Character, ManaRegenMultiplier, 100)
 RULE_INT(Character, EnduranceRegenMultiplier, 100)
+RULE_BOOL(Character, OldMinMana, false) // this is used for servers that want to follow older skill cap formulas so they can still have some regen w/o mediate
 RULE_INT(Character, ConsumptionMultiplier, 100) //item's hunger restored = this value * item's food level, 100 = normal, 50 = people eat 2x as fast, 200 = people eat 2x as slow
 RULE_BOOL(Character, HealOnLevel, false)
 RULE_BOOL(Character, FeignKillsPet, false)
diff --git a/zone/aggro.cpp b/zone/aggro.cpp
index 06c78c999..340493578 100644
--- a/zone/aggro.cpp
+++ b/zone/aggro.cpp
@@ -1274,6 +1274,11 @@ void Mob::ClearFeignMemory() {
 		AI_feign_remember_timer->Disable();
 }
 
+bool Mob::IsOnFeignMemory(Client *attacker) const
+{
+	return feign_memory_list.find(attacker->CharacterID()) != feign_memory_list.end();
+}
+
 bool Mob::PassCharismaCheck(Mob* caster, uint16 spell_id) {
 
 	/*
diff --git a/zone/client_mods.cpp b/zone/client_mods.cpp
index 541454a58..696214113 100644
--- a/zone/client_mods.cpp
+++ b/zone/client_mods.cpp
@@ -1240,6 +1240,10 @@ int32 Client::CalcManaRegen(bool bCombat)
 {
 	int regen = 0;
 	auto level = GetLevel();
+	// so the new formulas break down with older skill caps where you don't have the skill until 4 or 8
+	// so for servers that want to use the old skill progression they can set this rule so they
+	// will get at least 1 for standing and 2 for sitting.
+	bool old = RuleB(Character, OldMinMana);
 	if (!IsStarved()) {
 		// client does some base regen for shrouds here
 		if (IsSitting() || CanMedOnHorse()) {
@@ -1255,6 +1259,10 @@ int32 Client::CalcManaRegen(bool bCombat)
 						regen += skill / 15;
 				}
 			}
+			if (old)
+				regen = std::max(regen, 2);
+		} else if (old) {
+			regen = std::max(regen, 1);
 		}
 	}
 
diff --git a/zone/entity.cpp b/zone/entity.cpp
index a06a67092..0ab10982a 100644
--- a/zone/entity.cpp
+++ b/zone/entity.cpp
@@ -1419,10 +1419,10 @@ void EntityList::RemoveFromTargets(Mob *mob, bool RemoveFromXTargets)
 			continue;
 
 		if (RemoveFromXTargets) {
-			if (m->IsClient() && mob->CheckAggro(m))
+			if (m->IsClient() && (mob->CheckAggro(m) || mob->IsOnFeignMemory(m->CastToClient())))
 				m->CastToClient()->RemoveXTarget(mob, false);
 			// FadingMemories calls this function passing the client.
-			else if (mob->IsClient() && m->CheckAggro(mob))
+			else if (mob->IsClient() && (m->CheckAggro(mob) || m->IsOnFeignMemory(mob->CastToClient())))
 				mob->CastToClient()->RemoveXTarget(m, false);
 		}
 
@@ -1461,7 +1461,7 @@ void EntityList::RefreshAutoXTargets(Client *c)
 		if (!m || m->GetHP() <= 0)
 			continue;
 
-		if (m->CheckAggro(c) && !c->IsXTarget(m)) {
+		if ((m->CheckAggro(c) || m->IsOnFeignMemory(c)) && !c->IsXTarget(m)) {
 			c->AddAutoXTarget(m, false); // we only call this before a bulk, so lets not send right away
 			break;
 		}
@@ -2617,12 +2617,13 @@ void EntityList::RemoveFromHateLists(Mob *mob, bool settoone)
 	auto it = npc_list.begin();
 	while (it != npc_list.end()) {
 		if (it->second->CheckAggro(mob)) {
-			if (!settoone)
+			if (!settoone) {
 				it->second->RemoveFromHateList(mob);
-			else
+				if (mob->IsClient())
+					mob->CastToClient()->RemoveXTarget(it->second, false); // gotta do book keeping
+			} else {
 				it->second->SetHateAmountOnEnt(mob, 1);
-			if (mob->IsClient())
-				mob->CastToClient()->RemoveXTarget(it->second, false); // gotta do book keeping
+			}
 		}
 		++it;
 	}
@@ -3079,7 +3080,10 @@ void EntityList::ClearAggro(Mob* targ)
 				c->RemoveXTarget(it->second, false);
 			it->second->RemoveFromHateList(targ);
 		}
-		it->second->RemoveFromFeignMemory(targ->CastToClient()); //just in case we feigned
+		if (c && it->second->IsOnFeignMemory(c)) {
+			it->second->RemoveFromFeignMemory(c); //just in case we feigned
+			c->RemoveXTarget(it->second, false);
+		}
 		++it;
 	}
 }
@@ -3088,7 +3092,8 @@ void EntityList::ClearFeignAggro(Mob *targ)
 {
 	auto it = npc_list.begin();
 	while (it != npc_list.end()) {
-		if (it->second->CheckAggro(targ)) {
+		// add Feign Memory check because sometimes weird stuff happens
+		if (it->second->CheckAggro(targ) || (targ->IsClient() && it->second->IsOnFeignMemory(targ->CastToClient()))) {
 			if (it->second->GetSpecialAbility(IMMUNE_FEIGN_DEATH)) {
 				++it;
 				continue;
diff --git a/zone/mob.h b/zone/mob.h
index 2642a96fb..058774c54 100644
--- a/zone/mob.h
+++ b/zone/mob.h
@@ -588,6 +588,7 @@ public:
 	void AddFeignMemory(Client* attacker);
 	void RemoveFromFeignMemory(Client* attacker);
 	void ClearFeignMemory();
+	bool IsOnFeignMemory(Client *attacker) const;
 	void PrintHateListToClient(Client *who) { hate_list.PrintHateListToClient(who); }
 	std::list<struct_HateList*>& GetHateList() { return hate_list.GetHateList(); }
 	bool CheckLosFN(Mob* other);